Alexandria Police Ticket Bicyclists

[Robert Brubaker]

Hello Peter

Thanks for the code.   It certainly is realistic language.   When/If NCUTLO 
becomes active again, it would be worth advocating to have LAB propose it as 
a change to the UVC.

I've added it to a list I maintain of bike/ped pedestrian code
http://metroped.org/bpi/code_uvc.htm#id_code

If you find anything else please share

Bob



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Watkins
To: bsc at bicycle.alexandria.va.us
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Alexandria Police Ticket Bicyclists


On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 04:11:07PM -0400, Robert Brubaker wrote:
> Somehow the orginal question got lost.
>
> Understand that a cyclist blatantly (add more adjectives if necessary to
> make sure everyone agrees) blowing through a stop sign at high speed is
> dangerous.
>
> That said,  must bicylists come to a complete stop, typically would me
> putting foot down, to be sure of not getting a ticket?

Some web searches turn up a good bit of discussion of Idaho's statutes on 
red
lights and stop signs, which allow common-sense behavior by cyclists:
  http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K
Perhaps we should be talking to our state reps --and candidates!-- about
following Idaho's lead.

Often it is safer to roll slowly through with feet on the pedals than to 
stop
and disengage one foot, or attempt to. I suspect we've all seen folks fall
over when they've failed to release from clipless pedals or straps, and 
we've
all seen folks struggle to re-engage their shoes or clips after stopping.
It *is* in the public interest for bicylists to operate their bikes 
predictably,
*and* yield right of way but I think it's a bad idea to expect the same 
"stop"
behavior from bicylists *when there is no other party with right of way* as 
we
expect from operators of motorized vehicles that don't face the same 
challenges
stopping and starting.

-Peter

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